Tuesday, October 15, 2013

2nd Chance: Sun Ra - Song of the Stargazers (1979?)


Song of the Stargazers (Saturn 487 or sometimes 6161) was released in 1979 and is mostly a hodgepodge of various live recordings from the nineteen-seventies. But one track was obviously recorded much earlier, probably in 1967 or 1968, according to Prof. Campbell. Performed in a large, reverberant space in front of a sizable and enthusiastic audience, “Cosmo Dance” is an interesting quasi-modal composition featuring some evocative flute and oboe. Clacking wooden sticks set up a simple, repetitious rhythm with Boykins's bass and Pat Patrick’s “space lute” plucking out a droning three-note groove. Low horns and bowed bass enter with convulsively heaving whole-note fourths while flute and oboe and bass clarinet dance a medieval round. Flute and then oboe embark on expansive, Middle-Eastern sounding solos over the clacking sticks and throbbing bass/space lute, the audience bursting into spirited applause after each. Finally, the low horn/bowed bass whole-note fourths return, repeating several times before ending to more justifiably hearty ovation. Ra himself is not heard playing on this track, but the murky sound quality makes it hard to clearly make out who is doing what. Campbell says Marshall Allen is playing both flute and oboe, but that is impossible since both instruments are heard simultaneously during the ensemble section. So, is it Danny Davis on flute? It certainly sounds like him. There is also some talking barely audible throughout – is that Sun Ra lecturing the crowd or just random audience noise? In any event, this is a beautiful, prototypical Sun Ra composition of the period, perfectly realized by his Arkestra.
from NuVoid's Sun Ra Sunday (July 26, 2009)


135. [229d]  Sun Ra and his Arkestra

Song of the Stargazers

Marshall Allen (fl, ob); Robert Cummings (bcl); Pat Patrick (space lute); Ronnie Boykins (b); poss. John Gilmore (perc); unidentified (perc).
Live, 1967 or 1968

Cosmo Dance (Ra)

This is a late 1960s number; the bass clarinetist is not Eloe Omoe!  Personnel identified by rlc and Larry Nai.

Saturn LP 487, Song of the Stargazers, was the last new Saturn release on the Chicago label.  It was issued before 1981, most likely in 1979.  Some copies bear the serial number 6161 (NMY).  Mark Webber calls it a "mystery album."

289. [229]  Sun R and his Arkestra

Song of the Stargazers

Sun Ra (p, syn, org); prob. Michael Ray (tp); unidentified (tp); Craig Harris (tb); Tyrone Hill (tb -1); poss Vincent Chancey (Fr hn); Marshall Allen (as, fl, ob, picc, perc); Danny Davis (as, perc); John Gilmore (ts, perc); Eloe Omoe (bcl); Danny Ray Thompson (bars, perc); James Jacson (bsn, Inf-d); Damon Choice (vib); prob. Dale Williams (eg); poss. Luqman Ali [Edward Skinner] (d); unidentified (d); unidentified (cga); unidentified (sticks).
Live, 1979

The Others in Their World (Ra)
Galactic Synthesis (Ra) -1

…The only known copies of the LP are in Europe: "Maybe Saturn produced it in a very limited edition and they sold it while touring through Europe" (Geerken).  And all known copies are defective; Julien Vein says that the LP may have been mastered on only one stereo channel.

These particular items seem to be from the same live concert, and are similar in sound and conception to the free improvisations on the Soundscape sessions from November 1979.

The first discographical listing came from Tilman Stahl, who apparently took the misleading title "The Others in Their World" (which is not the 1960 composition) and the serial number 6161 to indicate that the album was recorded in Chicago in 1961!  Geerken and Hefele place the album in the late '60s and claim a 1970 release date.  The label, however, is a rather tattered El Saturn that was characteristic of the last Chicago pressings in the late 1970s.

290. [229a]  Sun Ra and his Arkestra

Song of the Star Gazers

Sun Ra (p.)
Studio recording, unknown date

Somewhere Out (Ra)

This rather unusual solo piano piece could have been recorded anywhere between the mid-1960s and the late 1970s.  No further information is available.

291. [229b]  Sun Ra and his Arkestra

Song of the Stargazers

Sun Ra (p.); unidentified (eg); unidentified (b); unidentified (perc).
Live, mid-1970s

Distant Stars (Ra)

This fragment from a live concert has a mid-1970s feel to it.  There is no connection with the 1960 or 1961 composition called "Distant Stars."

292. [229c]  Sun Ra and his Arkestra

Song of the Stargazers

poss. Atakatune [Stanley Morgan] (perc, voc); poss. Odun [Russell Branch] (perc, voc); poss. Chiea (perc, voc -1).
Studio recording, prob. 1970s

Duo (Ra)
Seven Points (Ra) -1 [ens voc]

These two numbers feature the same percussionists, playing in a manner that is unusual for Arkestra members.  On "Seven Points" they contribute some vocalizing as well.  "Seven Points" as a title is reminiscent of "The Place of Five Points," which was recorded in 1979.  If the percussionists are in fact Atakatune, Odun, and Chiea, a recording date in 1972 or 1973 is most likely.
from Campbell / Trent  The Earthly Recordings 2nd ed.

Duo


Sun Ra and his Arkestra
Song of the Stargazers

Saturn 487 or 6161 (unknown year, poss. 1979 - 1980)


1. The Others In Their World   10:14
2. Somewhere Out   4:40
3. Distant Stars   1:01
4. Duo   3:04
5. Seven Points   4:49
6. Cosmo Dance   6:31
7. Galactic Synthesis   9:52

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13 comments:

  1. Yotte:
    Thanks for this wonderful post!

    Best

    Jim

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  2. Thank you yotte! It is always a great day when there is new Sun Ra!


    - Tom

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  3. Looks interesting as Ra usually if not ALWAYS does! Thanks Yotte.

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  4. thanks for the doubling of this sun ra release!

    I-)

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  5. Another great Ra post ,great blog, thank you ,J

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  6. Mystery? Perhaps. Mr. Ra? Perhaps not. Are there any images of the label? I've love to research this one further. An album titled Song of the Stargazers is listed in some discographies. I've just got to go with my ear and and years of listening and study of Sun Ra. Certainly the sound and feel of the wild ensemble work is reminiscent of the Arkestra, but the keyboards simply do not sound like Sonny to me. I may be wrong, so I'll wait for more evidence, but for now...nah, it still don't sound like Sun Ra to me. In any case, it's a very good album.

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  7. I'm inclined to agree with rev.b. The keyboards don't sound like Sun Ra. First thing
    I noticed. At first I thought S.R. was having an indifferent day. It happens. As things
    progressed though, he sounded less and less like himself; so at this point I'm inclined to agree with rev.b. -- but it's still a wonderful listen!

    Best

    Jim

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  8. Thanks for the label images Yotte. Well, the catalog number matches what I’ve seen in discographies. I wonder what “Sun Club” represents? Never seen that before.

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  9. I'm glad everyone's enjoying this unusual release! Rev.b & Jim, thanks for voicing your opinions - a little healthy skepticism is essential when digging through the Mysteries of Ra's discography, don't you think?

    This album was discussed at the Saturn list recently and included input by Peter Dennett of Art Yard and Chris Trent. CT wrote that it is definitely a Sun Ra recording. He mentioned that he had seen a copy of the LP and that it includes an 'unacknowledged cover of a Salah Ragab composition' (Cosmo Dance?). He also provided a link to the Discogs entry showing the center labels (Thanks to I-) for sending them to me!). PD said that he has the master tapes and that Art Yard Publishing has the rights to the Salah Ragab tune. One list member believed that "they only pressed one run (50?) of these in Italy when they needed some money during a tour so the record was very scarce." Another mentioned that the cover is included in Hartmut Geerken's 'Sun Ra Omniverse' book.

    No one seems to know much about the 'Sun Club' reference but all seem to agree that this is the only place it appears - or at least nobody has indicated that they've seen it anywhere else.

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    1. Yotte:
      Thanks for the updated info! I, for one certainly don't question the authenticity of the recording. My question is whether what we hear is
      Ra on the piano. Any additional clarification will be much appreciated.

      Best

      Jim

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    2. I am sure that is Ra on keys... If you recall 1979 to 1980 is around the time Mr Mystery was breaking in a new and very wonderful synthesizer called a "Stratus"... I think much of the unfamiliarity of the sounds here is partly due to that... the rest is due to Sun Ra never being predictable.

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  10. love it, love it, LOVE IT

    thanks from the bottom of my space lovin' soul,
    mmk

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